steve this won't be a super satisfying answer that we can get back to you with details. we have a team that concentrates on logistics. that was an issue for years ago getting across pennsylvania so in terms of the access issue, my colleagues can follow-up with you afterwards and put you in touch with the right folks. >> just a logistical question. what is your best guess for running time of the ceremony, start to finish and for the parade start to finish? >> i can handle the ceremony portion of the. we expect that the announcements on the platform former will begin around 11:00. it will take about 30 minutes to announce everyone that will be seated on the platform. senator schumer opens the ceremony at 11:30 and we expect the president will take a oath at about and there will be a couple of -- immediately after that to wrap things up and the final musical act. the procession will head back inside and we hope to have everyone inside it 12:30 or so. the music begins for the pre-program at 9:30 in the morning and vip's other vip's will head out from the platform at 9:45 in